如果你和你的伴侣颜值分别是98和2,你愿意自己2还是伴侣2?You're a 98, Your Partner's a 2 — Or Would You Rather Swap?
Translated from the Chinese original, first published on WeChat「世像」on March 26, 2016.本文 2016.03.26 首发于微信公众号「世像」。
"最新的奇葩说的辩题是:如果你和你的伴侣颜值分别是98和2,你愿意自己2还是伴侣2。看到这个题目很有意思,很有趣决定想写一写对于这个问题的看法以及一些思考。"
先说一下对节目中几个点的认知吧。孙颖玉一开始说的思路或者立论就没有找好角度,她说女性天性多疑,敏感没有错;女性确实比男性更容易情绪化和没有安全感。但后来她的角度就很容易被奇袭。她是这么说的:
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这道题其存在一个不可忽视的BUG,或者现象:男女都是好面子的,谁说只有男人好面子,女人在爱美方面比起男人完全不落下风,甚至盖过男生。女生经常会比较别的女生是不是买了新衣服,新的化妆品。
所以拿带出去有面子这个角度,不管男女双方,对于另一方都是没有面子的,都会备受心理压力。是不适合的。
后来正方大王和史航老师的观点其实挺像我想说的,或者我在当初看到这个题目的大概思路和他们类似。
他们的观点总结起来大概是这样:我们属于默默奉献型的,或者说在感情中为伴侣考虑大于自己。当面临这个选择不得不选时,愿意自己背负压力,职责,不快等等。都是因为爱。虽然我颜值不高,但是当我挽着吴彦祖的手,我最风光。虽然鲜花插在牛粪上,但是这个鲜花插在牛粪上的粪"绝非繁粪"。我自己2分,真的可以无关紧要
选择让自己变成98就像之前的辩题:臭不要脸是一件坏事,是一种诱惑。大家都知道,诱惑这种事有了第一次就会有第二次。我们选择不去背叛和辜负,我们的选择是:自己问心无愧就好。我自己如果选择会这样选以及辩论
但其实这样也会被很多人抨击说:你们把自己显得太过于高尚诸如此类的话。我觉得这个其实和个人的性格有关。附两张自己的图
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不管理解也好,误解也罢,坦然接受。生活中,从来被误解是常态,理解才是非常态。所以平常对于各方面对于自己的理解,要珍惜。
接着思达的观点其实也蛮同意的,他的观点其实就是用经济学上效用和边际效益递减的原理来解释:别人的美,你每天看,日日看月月看,看多了总会习惯;自己的美千金难换。自己变得美一点,你都会特别高兴,激动不已。反过来也成立:别人的丑,你总会习惯;自己的丑。以及后来的
陈铭:现在按钮在我们手上,我们选择让自己98分,让自己变得更棒。爱情的本质来自于吸引,变得更好才能吸引。如果让对方选,我们也会让对方选98,这是更好的她。
最后说一下陈咏开。他说不要把自己的幸福建立在别人的幸福之上,但是他一直没有说自己选择98还是2。所以马薇薇发言的时候,一下就点出来这点了。而且正如她所说:两个人在一起的基础是三观的一致。道德一致才能在一起,一个人做一件事的时候,另一方是可以理解和支持的。
康永老师一直都是娓娓动人的回答,很温情。最后还是晓松老师的回答另辟奇径,转换角度,高屋建瓴,措辞文采斐然,不愧是男神。
他现身说法,说颜值不是从来就不是人生的判决。不然以他的颜值,早已没有生存的空间和余地了。我们看现在他的拥趸千千万,很有利的证明了这一点。
正如晓松老师所说,颜值不是生活的全部。真正的幸福和快乐来自于自己本身是一个不肤浅的人。来自于你自己的安全感,而你的安全感不仅仅来自于你的容颜你的外貌。颜值并不是唯一的决定性因素,认识到这就是对自己认知以及品味的改善。真正的幸福来自于我是一个不肤浅的的人
一个人对自己的提高,对自己的改善是多方位多层次的。用马斯洛需求层次来解释,当你可以无视颜值这个最底层的需求时,有了更高层级的追求与偏好,你会是一个更加辽阔的人。一直只盯着颜值,而不去关注和提高别的方面,他是一个庸俗的人。过得不快乐的人总是很多的,所以就会有一些专门兜售给过得不快乐的人的梦想去处。
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最近大家又开始讨论那句话,生活不只有眼前的苟且,还有诗和远方。只谈诗和远方,苟且很可能就一直是苟且了。说"生活不只有苟且"的人,一定对所处环境感到失望,需要相信在自己虽然现在没到、到总有一天会到的地方,有些好东西,这样现在的日子也能过下去。当你能无视这些差别,泰然自若,享受孤独,就真的是生活不止眼前的苟且,还有诗和远方。
由这个引申到旅行这个话题(脑洞略大)。自己是一个旅行的爱好者,熟悉的人都知道。最近以及看完节目同时也在想:远方的景色和现在的城市不同区别在在哪里。
现在相当一部分人多旅行就像例行公事一样,每到一个地方的流程无外乎:博物馆、特色景点和当地小吃,然后拍照,然后就开始遗忘。
我在走过一些地方之后,也逐渐厌倦了和排斥这种方法。现在旅行最吸引我的是旅途中的不期而遇的相遇,是和当地人或者土著的交流谈话。去体验各种风格,经历各种际遇是快乐之所在,是旅行的意义之一。
比如你去当沙发客,就可以认识当地的居民;运气好的话你们会成为好朋友,甚至他会带你去逛,去领略这个城市,给你讲这座城市或者他的故事。
也许多年以后我会忘了原来在这个城市看到了什么,拍下的照片也早已泛黄,但是这段经历会依然让你印象深刻,流连忘返,觉得这是段美妙而有收获的旅行。
就拿欧洲来举例,欧洲是每个喜欢旅行人的梦想。自己当然也不例外。德国的严谨与古板,法国的热情与浪漫,西班牙的激情和热辣,大英帝国的阴冷和渊博,意大利的不靠谱和沙滩,东西方宗教文化和谐共融的土耳其,瑞士的干净与祥和,犹如幻灯片的冰岛,荷兰的遍地鲜花,这种文化的多样性,底蕴的厚度,无时无刻不在吸引着我。这种文化分界是鲜明的,又是模糊的。
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欧洲是现代文明的发源地,有着根深蒂固的优雅和底蕴以及由内而外的和谐。去欧洲真的不是你站在埃菲尔铁塔,站在大英博物馆前,拍张照,发个朋友圈,你就来过了,这样真的没有意义。欧洲地方并不大,却有着丰富多样的文化。这样的文化体验,文化底蕴,在欧洲之外是难以体会到的。
读万卷书,行万里路。行路的意义,并不是为了Mark一下自己都去过哪些地方,或者po照片出来炫耀。
我想,如果你所谓的"旅行"就是一种收集各国签证印章的经历,如果你的人生已经可怜到要靠炫耀去过多少国家而获得某种渺小的价值认同感,如果你认为他们列出来的 "十佳旅游地" 真的算什么东西的话,那么你只是一个在试图寻找自我存在感的游客而已。
那么你的旅行永远不会让你成为更有趣的人,你只是导游屁股后面人群里的一员罢了。
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旅行扯得有点远,回到节目中来。奇葩说存在的最大意义或者价值是,马晓康也不止一次在节目中说过:"这个节目到现在,其实是有一个觉得最好的,不光是对我们自己,对这个时代也有一个贡献,就是捍卫多元化的价值观。"
马东接受采访时也一再强调:并不认同《奇葩说》是一个辩论的节目,应该说是一个有价值主张的娱乐节目。在如今的社会,最可怕的莫过于单一的价值观。并没有什么越辩越明的真理,存在即是合理。《奇葩说》的最大价值便是拓宽了我们的世界观
我自己很同意这点。我们一定要听到这两面的意见,它不仅松动了听他们辩论一些有争议,敏感话题的我们,也松动了社会对于一些问题和现象的包容,态度;也松动了他们辩论选手本身。我们一定不要被节目中的某一个或者某几个观点束缚着。
在坦白和坦诚中寻找平衡。对自己的生活方式不要盲目站队,不要把玩笑儿的标签当真。纯粹无暇单一执着是易碎的玻璃,包裹混沌接纳复杂、温润示人才是璞玉。
一个节目能否长久持续下去甚至影响到大家,关键还是价值主张。《奇葩说》和《康熙来了》一样,因为认同多元的价值观,不高高在上也不一味恶搞,在嬉笑怒骂中引起了我们的共鸣,也在喧闹浮躁中给了我们一丝温暖。
"The latest debate topic on U Can U BiBi is this: if you and your partner are rated 98 and 2 on looks, would you rather be the 2, or have your partner be the 2? I thought the question was fascinating, so I decided to write out how I see it, along with a few stray thoughts."
Let me start with how I read a few of the points made on the show. Sun Yingyu's opening line — her whole framing — didn't pick a good angle. She's not wrong that women are wired to be more suspicious and sensitive; women really do get emotional and feel insecure more easily than men. But the angle she chose left her wide open to a counterattack. Here's what she said:
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There's a glaring bug in this question, or rather a plain fact it ignores: everyone cares about face. Who says only men are vain? When it comes to wanting to look good, women don't fall a step behind men — if anything, they outdo them. Women are constantly clocking whether some other woman bought a new outfit or new makeup.
So the "someone I can show off in public" angle doesn't hold up for either side — no matter who's the 2, the other person still loses face and still carries the psychological weight. It's the wrong angle.
Later, the affirmative side's Da Wang and Mr. Shi Hang made basically the point I wanted to make — or at least, my rough take when I first saw the topic was close to theirs.
Their view, boiled down, ran something like this: some of us are the quietly self-sacrificing type — in a relationship we put our partner ahead of ourselves. When forced to choose, we'd rather shoulder the pressure, the burden, the unhappiness, all of it. Because of love. Sure, I'm not much to look at, but when I'm walking arm in arm with a Daniel Wu, I'm the one basking in glory. A flower stuck in a cowpat, maybe — but the cowpat this flower is stuck in is no ordinary cowpat. Me being a 2? That really can be beside the point.
Choosing to make yourself the 98 is like an earlier debate topic: shamelessness is a bad thing, a temptation. And everyone knows that with temptation, once there's a first time there's a second. We choose not to betray, not to let each other down; our choice is simply to keep a clear conscience. That's how I'd choose, and how I'd argue it.
But this too gets a lot of pushback — people say you're painting yourselves as too noble, and so on. I think that really comes down to personal temperament. Attaching two pictures of myself.
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Understood or misunderstood, I take it in stride. In life, being misunderstood is the norm; being understood is the exception. So whatever understanding you do get, from any quarter, cherish it.
Next, I'm pretty on board with Si Da's point too. His argument runs on economics — utility and the law of diminishing marginal returns: someone else's beauty, you look at every day, month after month, and eventually you get used to it; your own beauty is worth more than gold and can't be traded away. Get a little more beautiful yourself and you'll be over the moon. The reverse holds too: someone else's ugliness, you'll get used to; your own ugliness, you won't. And then, later:
Chen Ming: the button is in our hands right now, so we choose to make ourselves the 98, to make ourselves better. The essence of love is attraction, and becoming better is the only way to attract. If we let the other person choose, we'd want them to pick 98 too — that's the better version of her.
Finally, a word on Chen Yongkai. He said don't build your own happiness on top of someone else's happiness — but he never actually said whether he'd choose 98 or 2. So when Ma Weiwei got up to speak, she nailed him on it right away. And she's right: the foundation of two people being together is a shared worldview. Only when your values line up can you be together — when one person does something, the other can understand and support it.
Mr. Kang Yong, as always, answered gently and warmly, full of tenderness. But in the end it was Mr. Gao Xiaosong whose answer struck out on a fresh path — flipping the angle, taking the long view from on high, phrasing it all with real literary flair. No wonder he's everyone's idol.
He offered himself as living proof: looks have never been life's verdict. Otherwise, with a face like his, he'd have run out of room to survive long ago. And look — he has legions of devoted fans today, which makes the point rather powerfully.
As Mr. Gao said, looks aren't all of life. Real happiness and joy come from being a person of some depth yourself — from your own sense of security, and that security doesn't rest on your face and your appearance alone. Looks aren't the sole deciding factor, and recognizing that is itself an upgrade in how you see yourself and in your taste. Real happiness comes from being a person who isn't shallow.
Bettering yourself, improving yourself, happens on many fronts and at many levels. Put it in terms of Maslow's hierarchy: once you can disregard looks — that most basic-level need — and pursue higher-order aspirations and preferences, you become a vaster person. Fixate only on looks, and neglect everything else, and you're a vulgar person. There will always be plenty of unhappy people, and so there will always be dream merchants peddling escapes specifically to the unhappy.
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Lately everyone's been chewing on that line again: life isn't only the drudgery in front of you; there's also poetry and the distant horizon. Talk only about the poetry and the horizon, though, and the drudgery will very likely stay drudgery forever. Anyone who says "life isn't only drudgery" is surely disappointed with where they are, and needs to believe that in some place they haven't reached yet — but will reach one day — there's something good, so that today's grind becomes bearable. When you can disregard these differences, stay unruffled, and savor solitude, then it's truly the case that life isn't only the drudgery in front of you; there's also poetry and the distant horizon.
Which leads me, in a bit of a leap, to the subject of travel. I'm a travel lover — anyone who knows me knows that. Lately, and while watching the show, I've been thinking about this: what exactly sets the scenery of far-off places apart from the city I'm in now?
For a good chunk of people these days, travel has become a matter of going through the motions. The routine in every new place is more or less the same: museum, signature landmark, local snacks — then photos, and then you start forgetting.
After a fair amount of travel, I've gradually grown tired of and put off by this approach. What draws me to travel most now is the unexpected encounters along the way — the conversations with locals, with the people who actually belong to a place. Experiencing all sorts of styles, running into all sorts of chance meetings — that's where the joy is, and it's one of the reasons travel matters.
Couch-surf, for instance, and you get to know the locals; with a little luck you become good friends, and they might even take you around, show you the city, tell you the story of the place or of their own life.
Years later I might forget what I actually saw in a given city, and the photos may have long yellowed — but that experience will still stay vivid, and I'll linger over it, and think it was a wonderful, rewarding trip.
Take Europe. Europe is the dream of everyone who loves to travel, and I'm no exception. Germany's rigor and stiffness, France's warmth and romance, Spain's passion and heat, Britain's chill and erudition, Italy's unreliability and its beaches, Turkey where Eastern and Western religion and culture blend in harmony, Switzerland's cleanliness and calm, Iceland like a running slideshow, the Netherlands blanketed in flowers — this cultural diversity, this depth of heritage, pulls at me every waking moment. The cultural lines are sharp and blurred at once.
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Europe is the cradle of modern civilization, with a deep-rooted elegance and heritage and a harmony that radiates from within. Going to Europe truly isn't about standing in front of the Eiffel Tower, or the British Museum, snapping a photo, posting it, and calling it "been there" — that really means nothing. Europe isn't large, yet it holds a rich diversity of cultures. That kind of cultural experience, that depth of heritage, is hard to feel anywhere outside Europe.
Read ten thousand books, travel ten thousand miles. The point of the miles isn't to mark off where you've been, or to post photos and show off.
The way I see it, if your so-called "travel" is just an exercise in collecting visa stamps from various countries — if your life has grown so impoverished that you have to boast about how many countries you've hit to scrape together some tiny sense of validation — if you actually think their "Top Ten Places to Visit" lists count for anything, then you're just a tourist trying to find a sense of your own existence.
In that case your travels will never make you a more interesting person. You're just one more body in the crowd trailing behind the tour guide.
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Enough of the travel tangent — back to the show. The greatest meaning, or value, of U Can U BiBi is something Ma Dong and Gao Xiaosong have said more than once on air: "By this point, this show, I think, has made a real contribution — not just for us, but for this era — and that contribution is defending the value of pluralism."
Ma Dong stressed the same thing repeatedly in interviews: he doesn't see U Can U BiBi as a debate show, but as an entertainment show with a point of view. In today's society, nothing is more frightening than a single, monolithic set of values. There's no such thing as truth that gets clearer the more you argue it; whatever exists has its reason for existing. The greatest value of U Can U BiBi is that it broadens our worldview.
I quite agree. We absolutely need to hear both sides. It doesn't just loosen us up — the ones listening to them argue the contentious, sensitive topics — it also loosens society's tolerance and attitude toward certain issues and phenomena; and it loosens up the debaters themselves. We must never let ourselves be boxed in by any one, or any few, of the views aired on the show.
Find the balance between candor and honesty. Don't blindly pick a team over your own way of living, and don't take the joke labels for the real thing. Pure, flawless, single-minded fixation is fragile glass; embracing the murky, accepting the complex, and presenting yourself with warmth — that's the true, unpolished jade.
Whether a show can last and even leave a mark on people comes down, in the end, to what it stands for. U Can U BiBi, like Kangxi Coming, resonates with us precisely because it embraces pluralistic values — never talking down to us, never just mugging for laughs — striking a chord amid all the jokes and jabs, and offering us a sliver of warmth in the noise and the restlessness.
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