从做高管招聘,我受益匪浅的那些事What Executive Search Taught Me
Translated from the Chinese original, first published on WeChat「世像」on July 24, 2021.本文 2021.07.24 首发于微信公众号「世像」。
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全文大约6000字,分为7部分:
- 求职是一面镜子
- 高管招聘类似于做投资
- 你寻找的不是工作,是工作机会
- 不要活在他人的期待中
- 不要纠结“估值”,重要的是最后赢下游戏
- 做时间的朋友
- 做正确的选择
大概需要预留15min时间阅读,,以下enjoy:
01 求职跳槽是一面镜子:反映自己的性格,ego
成功的因素有很多,主要的还是依靠自己努力,但是心中有爱的人,成功离他更近。
人能不能成功,或者做成事,很多都来自于ta的选择,每个个体的选择反映,多个选择加起来,可以反映或者映射出ta自己是一个什么样的人:去什么学校,读什么专业,选择什么样的伴侣,做什么行业的工作,对职业,收入,人生的看法,观点等等。
可能一些职业咨询师会问到:你在当前的人生阶段最需要什么?
但仔细想想,这个问题的其实不太经的起仔细推敲,同时,它也挺玄学的:如果你想做的大事,是改变世界的,那要追求的是:不图钱多少,不求岁月静好,只能全力发展;如果你是平稳状态,准备小富即安,那降低风险系数,稳扎稳打、老婆孩子热炕头,才更不会辜负你的美好人生。
所以,问题又绕回来了:你究竟最适合什么样的生活?
其实,“最适合”本身就不是什么好词,是一个坑,“最”是形容词,“适合”是动词。
随着时间推移,随着个体成长进步,能力和资源不断提升,“最适合”的是一天天动态不断变化,永远定不下来。退一万步,即使做成某件事,就能确定这件事就是最适合自己的吗?悉尼歌剧院最适合悉尼吗?鸟巢最适合北京吗?
真正好的状态是:我发现了很多适合自己的选择,而且决定从某个选择开始先试试看。成功是偶然的,失败几乎是必然的,但:你可以对失败免疫。
生活中的很多故事,篇章——是精彩、开心也好,抑或痛苦、艰难、令人失望的也罢,他们都是经历和体验,都会带动你不断前进。
通过这种方法了解并体验生活,在探索世界、体验生活的无限游戏中,你就会走向成功,无惧失败。这种心态是“失败免疫疫苗”中极其重要的一剂药。
他,她,他们。从名牌大学毕业,在知名的大公司工作。在人生道路上,实现了每一个“预定目标”:名牌大学、结婚、事业——每一件事都准确无误地按照计划进行。凭借自己强大的意志力和努力付出,获得了自己想要的一切。人生可以说是一个成功的典范。
30-35岁,经过十来年的打拼,事业蒸蒸日上、发展稳定,现在看似是站稳脚跟,享受胜利果实的时候了。
但是,在他们内心深处,很多人却有一个秘密:很多个夜晚,他们开车回到家,坐在汽车上,看着城市的点点灯光,抑制不住地沮丧甚至大哭。
他们拥有了自己认为应该拥有的一切,实现了每一个梦想,但他们却一点儿也不快乐。他们知道自己应该为目前创造的生活而欣喜若狂,但却连一丝的愉悦都感觉不到。
他们很多人觉得自己一定是哪里出了问题。早上醒来时是一副成功人士的模样,但晚上临睡觉前,却总是辗转难以入睡,压力也好,纠结也罢,感觉自己似乎失去了什么。
在拥有了一切的同时又觉得自己一无所有,该怎么办呢?
他们的情况并不是个例,不仅发生在中国——在美国,有2/3的职场人士对他们的工作不满意,有15%的人甚至痛恨他们的工作。
他们非常成功,但他们很多人却并不幸福。他们什么都有了,但并不开心。
因为他们一生中,别人都告诉他们同样的故事:你即使现在不幸福,也不要担心,一旦你成功了就会获得幸福。
所以当他们成功的时候,他们想要找谁就会找谁,别人尊敬,崇拜他们,他们刚成功的时候,觉得这是世界上最美妙的感觉,但很快过了一段时间之后,他们就又回到了原来的状态。
成功和幸福之间的关系不是人们想象的那样,而且恰恰是相反的:不是成功是因,幸福是果。而是:幸福是因,成功是果。所以,你还觉得你去到哪个公司,哪个行业,上什么学校就能解决你的问题和困境么?that's impossible。
性格决定命运。性决定命,格决定运。
性是什么,性情暴躁,走得早;性情和婉的,一般寿命也久;格是什么,格局大的人,能容纳各种各样的人。所以刘邦能成事,包揽了各种奇奇怪怪的人,韩信张良etc,这些人给他带来无数的运、所以,性格决定命运。
Junior比Senior一般ego高;金融行业尤其金字塔和“鄙视链”顶端的呢几个工种的从业者,会比别的行业的人ego高。这个ego体现在两个方面:
- 觉得自己是xx公司的所以很nb
- 觉得自己目前在xx公司一定能去xx公司
你要知道在职场上,除了CEO本人,没有人是不可或缺,不可代替,仅此一位的,有时候很多公司的CEO也不是不可替代的。
什么意思呢?就是一个岗位有需求,即使是高管招聘,也有很多候选人在竞争,他不是非你不可。Junior就更不必说。所以请收起你的傲慢和ego,以及搞清楚你在和谁竞争。你能想象在NBA工作的人,可以去到高瓴工作么?连自己的竞争对手都搞不明白,这“仗”怎么打?
之前写过的一个点是:近一年时间,算是见过各种对红杉有执念的人:
- “为了红杉我package不要了”,
- “我愿意去红杉去做分析师”,
- “我只看顶级基金的机会”,
- “我非红杉不去”
你知道么,当你以上这些话说出口我就知道你和红杉无缘了,以上4类大概可以分为两类:第一本身经验和能力还不够qualify,第二如果你真这么厉害,你早就应该躬身入局在红杉了。
那些口口声声只看顶级fund,要去top美元基金的,以及别的所有高管职位的也类似。正确的做法是:去市场上聊一聊,看自己能不能拿到一家的面试机会以及offer。
实践是检验真理的唯一标准。这个市场足够透明和公允,真的有能力和实力,在当下这个时代,绝对不会被埋没。
或者问自己一个问题:你觉得对于应聘的这个职位,做得好的人和做得顶尖的人的差别在哪里?而自己目前处于哪个位置上面。
02 做高管招聘类似于做投资
在2019年的年终总结,我是这么写的:
这里有一个小建议:很多人每年都看很多财报或者有很多高谈阔论,但最核心的是,我们此生其实就是在经营一家公司,这家公司是我们自己,你是CEO,是CFO,是CHO,是COO,自己对自己负责。
所以,你作为你自己的管理层,你需要去制定今年明年的规划和战略,更需要制定未来的规划和战略。
你可以每逢年底尝试写一个财报给自己:有多少资产,负债又几何;除了有形资产以外,有哪些是你脑子里的无形资产。这些年来积累了哪些真正的资源,学到了哪些有价值的东西,并试着给它们估一个公允的价值。
随着岁月流逝,包裹着你自己的躯壳总是要因为磨损而折旧的。如果你热爱运动规律作息,有着健康的生活习惯,那就给自己这个资产少折一些,反之亦然。
华尔街可能不是一个长期有耐心的地方,但你自己需要做时间的朋友。你需要学会去平衡长期与短期的收益。一些眼前的利益最大化固然会让你下季度/下财年的财报很好看,但若以牺牲学习和积累为代价可能会让你后续的增长变得乏力。
所以,我其实不认为自己在做高管招聘,我是拿投资的视角来看的:我认为是别人在教我做选择。
这一个收获来自我之前看问题的视角从交易转向人之后的收获:视角变成人之后,招聘反应的是资金的流动,人员的流动,信息的流动。我不觉得自己在打cold call,我觉得每次会都是别人教我一些行业insights。
大多数人(包括我自己)都没意识到,当下的职业,让我某种程度上变成了一个information hub。
不过和投资还有一些异同点吧:
- 投资一年中当中大部分时间是在拒绝别人,高管招聘一年当中绝大部分时间其实都在被拒绝。
- 高管招聘的本质不是sourcing,而是判断。这一点和投资一样。但这还有一个点是,很多时候,你的判断无法起决定作用,换言之,你无法真正的扣动扳机,make it down。
- 虽然都是在拒绝别人,但投资具有强烈的品牌效应,只要fund的branding够好,一定不会错过big name。即使一开始错过,也有再次扣动扳机的机会。
03 你从来都不是在找工作,你寻找的是工作机会
乍一看,这两者好像没有什么大的区别,其实完全不同。
重新定义后,你考虑的不再是工作,而是如何处理求职信和简历、如何进行面试、如何结束面试以及最后获得机会。
这种重新定义,最重要的是影响你的心态,可以不再纠结于是否接受这份工作(你其实完全不了解这份工作),而是带着更多好奇心,想看看在这家公司中,你可以发现什么有趣的机会;而且,你不会再带着评判(judge)、消极的心态,而是进行有益,多元的积极探索。
当你找工作时,关注的焦点更多是工作,所以也会更多围绕工作本身,试图说服雇主选择你,向他们传达你所谓的:对这份工作的“热爱,渴望”。你大多数时候假装充满激情,让他们相信你。换句话说,你要么在说谎,要么放弃这份工作。但没有人喜欢说谎。
换个视角,如果你的目标是获得尽可能多的工作机会,而不是工作时,一切就都不同,你没什么必要骗人了。
你可以真实地表达出你对这份工作想法,好奇心,因为你确实想要对这个工作机会进行探索和评估。这不是语义上的问题,这是一个“真诚与否”的问题。
当你转变心态,寻找工作机会,而不是工作时,就会变得更真诚、更有活力、更坚定,也更开心。有趣的是,这样做反而会让你获得工作机会。
公司是在招聘人,招他们认可的人。
04 关于Title和Big name:不要活在他人的期待中
我之前发上一篇播客,有人说我制造压力和内卷。我想说的是:如果你在意那些公司牌子,学校名字,对他们有执念,就会觉得是内卷。如果你能平视它们,视角转换到他们怎么想问题的,怎么做选择的,那你看问题的视角就完全不一样。
当代人大多做的是什么:一味停留在brand,title的追求上。所以他们永远跳不出来。
单一的停留在brand 和title的追求上,一方面就会内卷;另一方面,目标这个东西有好也有坏,它最大的问题就是:当你实现它的时候,它就消失了。
所以,当个体追求到这些后,它完成的同时,也消失了:我要去字节,我要去MBB,我要去耶鲁沃顿,我要去红杉高瓴etc。
当个体实现了这些之后,问题和生活,才刚刚开始。所以,这些东西不那么重要,重要的还是要回归到个体身上。
对这些东西怯魅,就可以跳出来想问题了。清北复交还是一样去字节,哈佛耶鲁沃顿还是一样去MBB。
如果你追求学校牌子,你就会觉得他们比你厉害,如果你追求的是做成事,那大家干的活相差无几,就不会形成羡慕和担忧了。
Title,big name,校友这些在社会,职场中都是后验的。这些东西,都是你做出东西来别人就认,没做出来之前,还是不要每天挂在嘴上的好。那些只是清北MBA,不是清北本的大佬,你看那些原来瞧不上的人是不是大多还是去“跪舔”。
人做出东西才是最重要的,和年龄无关。
05 关于Pay:不要纠结估值,重要的是游戏结束时你要赢
首先,写在前面,能一直做金融,投行,咨询的人是少数之少数。这个描述限定词叫一直,一直的比例大概在10%-20%之间。中途都会主动,被动的离开原来的行业,去向corporate。
从赚钱角度来说,在corporate赚的钱不比做professional service少,甚至你去看,各国各种富豪榜上,最有钱的都是企业主,不是投资人。因为大家靠股权增值。
其次,两方面来说。
对于我们来说,做高管招聘的服务是收预付费的,价位在6位数左右。所以,我们的时间很宝贵,请不要想白嫖。
其次,聊聊关于大家最关心的薪酬。
一来,公司(雇主)可以只看pay,候选人不能只看pay。当代社会,大部分职业的薪酬职级都足够透明:互联网,咨询,外企,投行。VC/PE算是少数之少数不那么透明化的工种。但这部分比例极低。
我之前说过:人生比的不是当下的收入,是终身收入总和,即终身package。1年赚100/500万,可能是能力,更可能是运气或者机遇。
雇主是不care你的职业生涯的,但候选人自己要考量。公司知道候选人大部分人只关注pay,不怎么关注其他维度的。所以他们可以用高薪来吸引人,挖人。但你如果很贵,你要想,你的下家接不接的住。除非你一直就职不走了。
二来,要从雇员(学生)思维转换到雇主思维。雇员思维是:我是谁,我是xx学校毕业的;我就职于xx公司,我“很贵”,我值得很多钱,我要拿很多钱,你们应该给我很多钱。
雇员应该知道:职场上或者商业上,永远讲究的是性价比。所以同样level的年薪高的,是不占优势,处于弱势地位的。
怎么说呢?
我们拿consulting来举个例子,比如两个人都是Manager的Title,一个Manager 年薪80万,另一个Manager 100万,在同等情况差不多或者相差无几的情况下,你觉得雇主选80还是100的?毫无疑问是80而不是100的,因为找一个80就能解决问题的,没必要100的,你over pay(over qualify)了。
当你的薪酬超过市场均值,一般不外乎是两种情况:
- 你的hours很差:投行,咨询,投资属于这种。3-5年的薪酬收入,相当于别的行业的5-8年的。所以你离开原有行业,就发现没太多选项,因为雇主接不住你的收入
- 提高人均单产,把你和公司“绑定”。你离开公司,就会down pay,你不离开公司,就会越来越难跳,长痛或者短痛,最后都要二选一。
职场上,有一种毁掉你的方式,叫给你变态的薪酬。这种情况,多发生在创业公司挖人的时候,不过别的时候也有:当某一行业大火的时候,这个行业的需求和package都会变得“水涨船高”。比如15年的o2o,20-21年的社区团购等等。
某公司急速扩张,变态加薪挖人。某人原来18k,40k给挖去,很high,4个月后被裁,在家赋闲半年多,因为他只接受不低于乃至只看高于40k的薪酬,但有价无市。赋闲9个月后入职,20k,一直闷闷不乐,工作也提不起劲。和同事抱怨:以前我多少钱,现在才多少。煎熬几个月,又离职。寻觅40k工作。
各位看官,谨防此类大坑。
06 关于Title和年限
合伙人,SVP,CTO,CFO,也是会看机会的,而且somehow看机会的诉求不比junior小朋友低,只是他们更谨慎。
所以这是我很多收获和insights的来源:高管选择职业,跳槽在意的是什么,考量的因素是什么,怎么做选择,之前踩过哪些坑。
越senior越难跳,越senior越不需要跳。当你是asso,一个hr,一个初级产品经理的时候,是最好的换工作的timing。当你变成vp、md;变成hrd,coo,变成team leader时,你和雇主的预期都会变高,雇主对你的要求也会更高。包括不限于:package,成本,能力,年龄,trust,还有你的自尊和ego。
多年经验只能证明你做过某些事,不能证明你可以做更多有挑战的事情。同时,多年经验也意味着企业雇佣成本的增加。
从企业成本角度来看,招一个十年经验的人所需代价远超招聘一个五年经验的人。而对业务部门而言,一个五年工作经验的年轻人,更容易培养以及接受新鲜事物,也更能适应更大的工作压力。
07 关于做正确的选择
在这个VUCA的时代,没有什么是不能变化的。20年至今,我们经历的黑天鹅和“活久见”还少么?
明斯基说过:稳定即不稳定——经济长时期稳定可能导致债务增加、杠杆比率上升,进而从内部滋生爆发金融危机和陷入漫长去杠杆化周期的风险。
同样,稳定去大厂不一定意味着好或强。对于年轻人而言,某种程度是一种好选择,但对很多中年而言,却不一定是最佳选择。
从package上看,为了获取所谓的大厂高薪,需要放弃的东西太多太多,加上很多人要兼顾家庭,去大厂搬砖,还意味着要放弃更多与孩子相处成长的时间。
从时间周期来看,大厂也并非完美之地:看不到自己所追求的自由,竞争力随年龄渐长而下降。高管貌似是一条道路,但这条路太窄,越走越窄,供小于求,竞争激烈。
从朋友圈就可窥一斑,都不用到高管,很多小朋友在职时和离职后,完全是两个人:在职时大部分时候沉默不语,朋友圈基本是公司pr;离开大厂或者公司后,朋友圈会立刻鲜活了起来,更像一个活生生的人。
每个职场人应该尽早明白,职业要尽早越超“升职加薪”的目标,越是把“升职加薪”当成自己最大的追求,距离个人自由的就越远。如果总是拿生命中仅有的资源“时间”贱卖,换取生活费用,我们的命运和上一辈,上一代殊途同归。
年轻人最大的资本是身体么?不,年轻人最大的资本是时间。我们今天可以什么都不会,我们什么都可以学,年轻的时候是你选择权的巅峰。
我们就业道路的选择,是会越来越窄的,你会对工作越来越挑剔,工作也会对你越来越挑剔。相比中年以后要承担的那些责任,家庭的限制,年轻时代价真的只是钱。与其拉长战线,不如猛烈的增加炮火。
结语
生活绝不仅仅是薪水及工作业绩,我们还渴望被爱,为社会做点事,为世界做一些贡献。
我们希望尽自己所能,让我们人生有足够的目标和意义,幸福快乐地不枉此生。
你要明白:人生不仅是一个“名词”,它更是一个动词。
你要“自己设计”你的生活,而不是被别人告诉你应该过什么样的生活,或者这种生活比另一种生活好的原因。
这期节目也做了播客,欢迎大家在语音收听。
Introduction
This piece runs about 6,000 characters, in seven parts:
- Job-hunting is a mirror
- Executive search is a lot like investing
- What you're looking for isn't a job — it's a job opportunity
- Don't live inside other people's expectations
- Don't fixate on "valuation" — what matters is winning the game in the end
- Be a friend of time
- Make the right choice
Set aside about 15 minutes to read it. Enjoy:
01 Job-Hunting and Job-Hopping Are a Mirror — Reflecting Your Own Character and Ego
There are many factors in success, and the main one is still your own effort — but success comes closer to those who carry love in their hearts.
Whether a person can succeed, or get things done, comes largely from their choices. Each individual choice reflects something, and many choices added together can reflect or mirror what kind of person they are: what school they go to, what major they study, what kind of partner they choose, what industry they work in, and their views and opinions on career, income, and life.
Some career counselors might ask: at this stage of your life, what do you most need?
But think it over, and the question doesn't really hold up to scrutiny — and it's rather mystical too: if the great thing you want to do is to change the world, then what you must pursue is this: don't chase how much money, don't seek quiet days, just develop with everything you have. If you're in a stable state, ready to settle for modest comfort, then lowering your risk coefficient, playing it steady, and a wife-kids-and-warm-hearth life will do more justice to your good life.
So the question loops right back: what kind of life are you actually most suited to?
Truthfully, "most suited" is a bad phrase to begin with — a trap. "Most" is an adjective and "suited" is a verb.
As time passes, as the individual grows and improves, and as ability and resources keep rising, what is "most suited" shifts dynamically day by day and can never be pinned down. And even taking ten thousand steps back — even if you accomplish some particular thing, can you be sure that thing is the one most suited to you? Is the Sydney Opera House the thing most suited to Sydney? Is the Bird's Nest the thing most suited to Beijing?
The truly good state is: I've discovered many choices that suit me, and I've decided to start by trying out one of them. Success is accidental, failure is nearly inevitable — but you can be immune to failure.
Many of the stories and chapters in life — whether brilliant and joyful, or painful, hard, and disappointing — are all experiences, and they all keep driving you forward.
By understanding and experiencing life this way, in the infinite game of exploring the world and experiencing life, you'll move toward success without fearing failure. This mindset is an extremely important dose in the "failure-immunity vaccine."
Him, her, them. Graduated from a famous university, working at a well-known big company. On life's road, they've achieved every "set target": famous school, marriage, career — everything proceeding exactly according to plan. By sheer willpower and hard work, they've obtained everything they wanted. Their lives, you could say, are a model of success.
At 30 to 35, after a decade or so of striving, their careers thriving and steady, they now appear to have found their footing and to be at the point of enjoying the fruits of victory.
But deep down, many of them harbor a secret: on many nights, they drive home, sit in the car, look at the city's scattered lights, and can't hold back their dejection — sometimes they even weep.
They have everything they believed they should have, and have realized every dream, yet they aren't happy in the slightest. They know they should be ecstatic about the life they've built, yet can't feel even a trace of joy.
Many of them feel something must have gone wrong somewhere. They wake in the morning looking every bit the successful person, but at night before sleep they toss and turn, unable to rest — stress, or turmoil — feeling as though they've lost something.
Having everything and yet feeling they have nothing — what should they do?
Their situation is not an isolated case, and it doesn't only happen in China — in America, two-thirds of working professionals are dissatisfied with their jobs, and 15% even hate them.
They are extremely successful, yet many of them aren't happy. They have everything, but aren't glad.
Because all their lives, everyone told them the same story: even if you aren't happy now, don't worry — once you succeed, you'll obtain happiness.
So when they succeed, they can seek out whomever they want; others respect and admire them. When they've just succeeded, they think it's the most wonderful feeling in the world — but soon enough, after a while, they return to their original state.
The relationship between success and happiness isn't what people imagine — it's exactly the reverse. It's not that success is the cause and happiness the effect, but that happiness is the cause and success the effect. So do you still think that going to some company, some industry, or attending some school will solve your problems and your predicament? That's impossible.
Character determines destiny. Temperament determines your fate; capacity determines your fortune.
What is temperament? The hot-tempered leave early; the gentle and mild generally live longer. What is capacity? The person of large capacity can accommodate all sorts of people. That's why Liu Bang could get things done — he took in all sorts of odd and remarkable characters, Han Xin, Zhang Liang, and so on, and these people brought him no end of fortune. So character determines destiny.
Junior people generally have higher egos than senior ones; practitioners in finance — especially in the handful of roles at the top of the pyramid and the "hierarchy of contempt" — will have higher egos than people in other industries. This ego shows up in two ways:
- Thinking they're impressive because they're at such-and-such company
- Thinking that being at such-and-such company now guarantees they can get into such-and-such company
You have to understand: in the workplace, apart from the CEO themselves, no one is indispensable, irreplaceable, one-of-a-kind — and sometimes even the CEO of many companies isn't irreplaceable.
What does this mean? It means when a position has a need, even in executive search, there are many candidates competing — it's not that only you will do. Junior roles need no mention. So put away your arrogance and ego, and figure out who you're actually competing against. Can you imagine someone working at the NBA being able to go work at Hillhouse? If you can't even figure out who your competitors are, how are you going to fight this "battle"?
A point I've made before: over the past year or so, I've met all sorts of people obsessed with Sequoia:
- "For Sequoia, I'll give up my package"
- "I'm willing to go be an analyst at Sequoia"
- "I only look at opportunities at top funds"
- "It's Sequoia or nothing"
You know what — the moment you say any of the above, I know you and Sequoia are not meant to be. The four types above fall roughly into two categories: first, your experience and ability simply aren't qualified enough; second, if you really were that good, you'd already have bent low and thrown yourself into Sequoia long ago.
The same goes for those who insist they only look at top funds, want to go to top USD funds, and for all the other executive positions too. The right approach is: go out into the market and have some conversations, and see whether you can land an interview and an offer from one of them.
Practice is the sole criterion of truth. This market is transparent and fair enough — with real ability and real substance, in an era like today's, you absolutely will not be buried.
Or ask yourself a question: for the position you're applying for, where's the difference between someone who does the job well and someone who does it at the very top? And where do you currently stand?
02 Executive Search Is a Lot Like Investing
In my 2019 year-end reflection, I wrote this:
Here's a small suggestion: many people read a lot of financial reports every year, or hold forth grandly, but the core thing is that all our lives we are really running a company — and that company is ourselves. You are the CEO, the CFO, the CHO, the COO; you answer to yourself.
So as your own management, you need to set this year's and next year's plans and strategy, and even more, to set your plans and strategy for the future.
At the end of each year, you can try writing yourself a financial report: how many assets you have, and how many liabilities; beyond your tangible assets, what intangible assets are in your head. What genuine resources you've accumulated over the years, what valuable things you've learned — and try to assign them a fair value.
As the years slip by, the shell that wraps around you inevitably depreciates from wear and tear. If you love exercise and keep a regular schedule, with healthy living habits, then depreciate this asset of yours a little less — and vice versa.
Wall Street may not be a place of long-term patience, but you yourself need to be a friend of time. You need to learn to balance long-term and short-term returns. Maximizing some near-term gains will certainly make your next-quarter/next-fiscal-year report look good, but if it comes at the expense of learning and accumulation, it may leave your later growth feeble.
So I don't actually think of myself as doing executive search; I look at it through the lens of investing: I think of it as others teaching me how to make choices.
This realization came after I shifted my perspective on things from transactions to people: once the lens became people, hiring reflects the flow of capital, the flow of people, the flow of information. I don't feel I'm making cold calls; I feel every meeting is someone teaching me some industry insights.
Most people (myself included) don't realize that my current profession has, in a sense, turned me into an information hub.
There are, however, some similarities and differences with investing:
- In investing, most of the year is spent rejecting others; in executive search, most of the year is actually spent being rejected.
- The essence of executive search isn't sourcing — it's judgment. This is the same as investing. But there's an added point here: much of the time, your judgment can't be decisive; in other words, you can't actually pull the trigger and make it happen.
- Although both involve rejecting others, investing has a powerful brand effect: as long as the fund's branding is good enough, it definitely won't miss a big name. Even if it misses one at first, it gets another chance to pull the trigger.
03 You Were Never Looking for a Job — You're Looking for a Job Opportunity
At first glance these two seem to have no great difference, but in fact they're entirely different.
Once you redefine it, what you're weighing is no longer the job, but how to handle the cover letter and résumé, how to conduct the interview, how to close it out, and finally how to obtain the opportunity.
The most important thing about this redefinition is its effect on your mindset: you can stop agonizing over whether to accept the job (which you don't actually understand at all), and instead approach it with more curiosity, eager to see what interesting opportunities you can discover within the company. And you no longer come in with a judgmental, negative attitude, but engage in beneficial, diverse, positive exploration.
When you're looking for a job, your focus is more on the job, so you also circle more around the job itself, trying to persuade the employer to choose you, conveying to them your so-called "love and longing" for this job. Most of the time you fake being full of passion to make them believe you. In other words, you're either lying, or giving up the job. But no one likes lying.
Change the angle: if your goal is to obtain as many job opportunities as possible, rather than a job, everything changes — you no longer really need to deceive anyone.
You can genuinely express your thoughts and curiosity about the job, because you really do want to explore and evaluate this opportunity. This isn't a matter of semantics; it's a matter of sincerity.
When you shift your mindset — looking for job opportunities rather than a job — you become more sincere, more energetic, more resolute, and happier. Interestingly, doing so actually helps you land the job opportunity.
Companies hire people — the people they recognize and endorse.
04 On Titles and Big Names: Don't Live Inside Other People's Expectations
After I released an earlier podcast episode, someone said I was manufacturing pressure and involution. What I want to say is this: if you care about those company brands and school names, and you're obsessed with them, then you'll experience it as involution. If you can look at them at eye level and shift your perspective to how they think about problems and how they make choices, then your whole way of seeing things changes.
What do most people today do? They dwell endlessly on the pursuit of brand and title. That's why they can never break out of it.
Dwelling solely on the pursuit of brand and title leads, on one hand, to involution; and on the other hand, goals are a thing with both good and bad sides — their biggest problem being that the moment you achieve one, it vanishes.
So once an individual attains these, at the very moment they're completed, they also disappear: I want to go to ByteDance, I want to go to MBB, I want to go to Yale or Wharton, I want to go to Sequoia or Hillhouse, etc.
Once an individual has achieved these, the problems and the living have only just begun. So these things aren't that important; what matters is still coming back to the individual.
Demystify these things, and you can step outside to think. Tsinghua-Peking-Fudan-Jiaotong grads still go to ByteDance all the same; Harvard-Yale-Wharton grads still go to MBB all the same.
If you pursue the school brand, you'll feel they're more impressive than you. If what you pursue is getting things done, then everyone's doing much the same work, and no envy or anxiety will form.
Title, big name, alumni networks — in society and the workplace these are all things assessed after the fact. Once you've produced something, people acknowledge them; before you've produced anything, better not to have them on your lips every day. Those big shots who are merely Tsinghua/Peking MBAs, not Tsinghua/Peking undergrads — look at whether the people they once looked down on still mostly end up "kowtowing" to them.
A person producing something is what matters most, and it has nothing to do with age.
05 On Pay: Don't Fixate on Valuation — What Matters Is That You Win When the Game Ends
First, a preface: those who can stay in finance, banking, or consulting for the long haul are the rare few of the rare few. The qualifier there is "stay" — and the proportion who stay is roughly 10%–20%. Midway, people leave the original industry, whether by choice or not, and head into corporate.
From a money standpoint, you earn no less in corporate than in professional services — in fact, look at the various rich lists in any country, and the wealthiest are business owners, not investors. Because everyone relies on equity appreciation.
Second, two points to make.
For us, executive-search services are billed on a prepaid basis, at a price in the six figures. So our time is precious — please don't try to freeload.
Next, let's talk about the pay everyone cares most about.
First, the company (the employer) can look only at pay, but the candidate cannot look only at pay. In modern society, the pay and rank of most professions are transparent enough: tech, consulting, multinationals, banking. VC/PE is among the rare few of the rare few roles that aren't so transparent — but that share is extremely small.
I've said before: what you compete on in life isn't your current income, but your lifetime total income, i.e., your lifetime package. Earning one, five million in a single year may be ability — but it's more likely luck or opportunity.
The employer doesn't care about your career; the candidate has to weigh it for themselves. The company knows most candidates focus only on pay and not much on the other dimensions. So they can use high pay to attract and poach people. But if you're very expensive, you have to consider whether your next employer can catch you. Unless you stay put and never leave.
Second, shift from an employee (student) mindset to an employer mindset. The employee mindset is: who am I, I graduated from such-and-such school, I work at such-and-such company, I'm "expensive," I'm worth a lot, I want a lot, you should give me a lot.
The employee should know: in the workplace and in business, what always matters is cost-effectiveness. So at the same level, the one with the higher annual pay has no advantage and is in the weaker position.
How so?
Take consulting as an example. Say two people both hold the title of Manager; one Manager makes 800,000 a year, the other 1,000,000. All else roughly equal, which do you think the employer picks — the 800,000 or the 1,000,000? Without question the 800,000, not the 1,000,000, because if an 800,000 hire can solve the problem, there's no need for the 1,000,000 — you're overpaid (overqualified).
When your pay exceeds the market average, it's generally one of two situations:
- Your hours are terrible: banking, consulting, investing are like this. Three to five years' worth of pay equals five to eight years' in other industries. So when you leave the original industry, you find you don't have many options, because employers can't catch your income.
- Raising output per head, "binding" you to the company. Leave the company and your pay goes down; stay and it gets harder and harder to move — long pain or short pain, in the end you have to pick one.
In the workplace, there's a way to ruin you, and it's called giving you an insane salary. This happens most often when startups poach people, but at other times too: when an industry catches fire, both the demand and the packages in that industry rise with the tide. Think of O2O in 2015, or community group-buying in 2020–21.
A certain company was expanding at breakneck speed, insanely raising salaries to poach people. Someone originally making 18k was poached for 40k — thrilled. Four months later they were laid off, and idle at home for over half a year, because they'd accept nothing below, indeed only look at anything above, 40k — but there was a price with no market. After nine months idle they took a job at 20k, forever glum, and couldn't muster any drive at work. They complained to colleagues: I used to make so much, and now only this. After a few grinding months, they quit again, hunting for a 40k job.
Readers, beware pitfalls like this.
06 On Titles and Years of Experience
Partners, SVPs, CTOs, CFOs also look at opportunities — and somehow their appetite for looking is no lower than the junior kids', they're just more cautious.
So this is a source of much of what I gain and my insights: what senior executives care about when choosing a career or job-hopping, what factors they weigh, how they make choices, and what pitfalls they've stepped in before.
The more senior you are, the harder it is to move — and the more senior you are, the less you need to. When you're an associate, an HR person, a junior product manager, that's the best timing to change jobs. When you become a VP, an MD; become an HRD, a COO; become a team leader — both you and the employer's expectations rise, and the employer's demands on you rise too. These include, but aren't limited to: package, cost, ability, age, trust, and your own self-esteem and ego.
Many years of experience only prove you've done certain things; they don't prove you can do more challenging ones. At the same time, many years of experience also mean the company's hiring cost goes up.
From the company's cost angle, hiring someone with ten years of experience costs far more than hiring someone with five. And for the business unit, a young person with five years of experience is easier to cultivate, more open to new things, and better able to adapt to greater work pressure.
07 On Making the Right Choice
In this VUCA era, nothing is beyond change. From 2020 to now, have we seen so few black swans and "live-long-enough-to-see-it" moments?
Minsky said: stability is instability — a long period of economic stability can lead to rising debt and rising leverage ratios, which in turn breed from within the risk of a financial crisis erupting and of falling into a long deleveraging cycle.
Likewise, steadily going to a big tech firm doesn't necessarily mean good or strong. For young people, it's in a sense a good choice, but for many in middle age, it isn't necessarily the best one.
From the package angle, to obtain the so-called high pay of a big tech firm, you have to give up far, far too much — and on top of that, many people have to balance a family, so grinding away at a big tech firm also means giving up more time growing up alongside their kids.
From the time-cycle angle, a big tech firm is no perfect land either: you can't see the freedom you seek, and your competitiveness declines as you age. Being an executive seems like one path, but that path is too narrow and gets narrower the further you go — supply short of demand, competition fierce.
You can glimpse it just from people's WeChat Moments — you don't even need to look at executives. Many young people are completely different people while employed versus after leaving: while employed they're mostly silent, their Moments basically company PR; after leaving the big tech firm or the company, their Moments instantly come alive, more like a living, breathing person.
Every working professional should understand as early as possible that a career must, as early as possible, transcend the goal of "promotions and raises." The more you make "promotions and raises" your greatest pursuit, the further you drift from personal freedom. If you always sell cheap the one resource life gives you — time — in exchange for living expenses, then our fate and our parents' generation's, our forebears' generation's, converge on the same road.
Is a young person's greatest capital their body? No — a young person's greatest capital is time. Today we may know nothing, but we can learn anything; when you're young is the peak of your right to choose.
The choices on our career road will get narrower and narrower; you'll grow pickier about work, and work will grow pickier about you. Compared with the responsibilities you'll have to shoulder after middle age and the constraints of family, the price you pay when young really is only money. Rather than stretching out the front line, better to fiercely intensify the barrage.
Closing
Life is by no means only salary and work performance; we also long to be loved, to do something for society, to make some contribution to the world.
We hope to do all we can to give our lives enough purpose and meaning, to live happily and not waste this one life.
You need to understand: life is not only a "noun" — it is even more a verb.
You should "design your own" life, rather than be told by others what kind of life you should live, or the reasons one kind of life is better than another.
This episode was also made into a podcast — you're welcome to listen to the audio.