年轻人到底应该去买方,还是去卖方?Buy Side or Sell Side: Where Should Young People Start?

Translated from the Chinese original, first published on WeChat「世像」on May 16, 2018.本文 2018.05.16 首发于微信公众号「世像」。

"比能力重要1000倍的,是你的底层操作系统"

第14篇

先说明一下这里说明的买方和卖方,量化交易不在此次的讨论范围内。

卖方:四大:普华永道,安永,毕马威,德勤

咨询:MBB,罗兰贝格,埃森哲

投行——IBD部门:卖企业融资服务(上市,并购,增发等)

销售交易部:流动性服务(做市,黑池等)

研究部:卖行研,金融,资讯

供应商:卖终端和数据

买方:食物链最顶端。买所有服务。

先说观点:以我个人浅薄的经验,观察和了解来说,不鼓励应届生,新人和没有扎实 hard skill 打底的职业生涯起步就从直接从买方做起,不论是一级还是二级,一级尤其如此。我们评价一个人的价值,主要是看这个人的能力,不可替代性以及拥有的社会资源。再一方面,不能抛开前景和未来,谈现在。以下是个人一点浅薄的看法,欢迎讨论:

  • VC 和大投行里的买方部门(比如 Direct Investment 直接投资部,二级自营部)很少或者几乎不招应届生,也很少从内部的卖方直接内部转;相反同等情况下,卖方部门机会不少,比如一级 IBD,二级的 ER 每年都是录用应届生的。
  • 大部分买方流动性更低,没有坑就没有机会出来。
  • 大部分买方无法提供系统的内部培训,没什么时间去教你带你。而投行和咨询被称为"黄埔军校"。每年都会调配足够的资源给应届新人提供全面,系统的各类培训,hard skill 扎实,专业知识和人脉积累也不落下风。在真正的大卖方,可以培养你严谨的工作态度,良好的工作习惯,并且为你专业知识的积累打下非常系统的基础。在你资源和能力有限的情况下,这是最稳健的路。
  • 同事会倾向于只告诉你该做 what,而不去解释 why
  • 行业资历差距过大:你厉害的同事们大多是已经做过 1-2 份不同职业了,好多是"精英中的精英",而你初入职场,给你的一些"点拨"极具跳跃性。一不小心就会超越你的上限导致你无法消化。
  • 买方的工作强度并不比卖方低,不要产生误解。
  • 卖方对监管法规有充分的认识。投行思维在这行业里面浸淫时间长久之后,是很有益的。
  • 买方带给你的更多的是平台的背书。一但失去这个平台,你"一无所成"会很痛苦。而卖方进可攻退可守,进可冲击好的买方,退在卖方继续干。提一点:从来没有钱多事少离家近的工作,富二代比你想象的要努力。不要想安逸,能锤炼你的,让你忙让你累的,最后都会在未来某个时间,以你想像不到的方式加倍偿还给你。

如果你自己自带资源,是 VIP,那可以直接从买方做,你接触的人,项目,视野平台,对接的资源,跟你在卖方完全不在一个层次。买方具有天然的知识优越感。二级的人懂得实在太少、太慢了。工作内容极其丰富,可以认识最优秀的人。最优秀的创始人对行业洞察,制定战略,执行节奏,带团队的能力,没有比这更好的学习方法了。最后则是好奇心极大的满足。

而在卖方,不管在四大还是投行,核心是合规性,帮企业准备各种资料,应对发审委提出的各种乱七八糟的问题,最终为了让企业过会。在这种情况下,如果你有很好的敏锐度,判断力,眼光,行业研究经验等等,在一切围绕 IPO 这个环节,几乎发挥不出来。你要做的,就是应用你金融,财务,法律等复合型知识,帮企业准备相关材料,进行整改,最终顺利过会上市。

如果不是自带资源或者资源有限,建议从大卖方做起比较好。买方比卖方更看重资源,可以说:买方资源为王。一个买方的小朋友如果有资源,能够对接的渠道会很多。买方玩法很多,能够覆盖到的资源渠道也非常多样化。在买方,专业技能也重要,但重要性程度没有卖方这么高。卖方虽然资源也重要,但资源的覆盖面有限,资源覆盖核心其实就是这笔业务最后给不给你做。

小 tips:

1:金融业,前三年不要比薪酬,前三年不要比薪酬,前三年不要比薪酬,重要的事说三次。

2:深入一个行业非常重要。金融是广博又狭窄的职业,广博指要有非常广且宽的职业素养,狭窄说的是最终要聚焦,无论一级还是二级,无论做资金业务还是股权业务。

3:一位前辈的建议:对于基础素质、能力都比较好的人来说,熟练掌握工作技巧大概 3 个月到半年,要用最快的时间想清楚未来一年你所产生的价值,然后花 50% 的时间努力去实现它。然后留给自己 50% 的时间思考其他

最后一句话结束:你不厌其烦的地方,就是你的天份所在。

"A thousand times more important than ability is your underlying operating system."

Post #14

One clarification up front: the buy side and sell side I'm discussing here exclude quant trading.

Sell side —

Big Four: PwC, EY, KPMG, Deloitte.

Consulting: MBB, Roland Berger, Accenture.

Investment banks — IBD: sells corporate-finance services (IPOs, M&A, follow-on offerings, and the like). Sales & Trading: sells liquidity (market-making, dark pools, etc.). Research: sells industry research, financials, information. Vendors: sell terminals and data.

Buy side: top of the food chain. Buys every service.

My take first: from my own shallow experience, observation, and understanding, I would not encourage new grads, newcomers, or anyone whose career lacks a solid hard-skill foundation to start straight on the buy side — primary or secondary, and the primary side especially. When we judge a person's value, we mostly look at their ability, their irreplaceability, and the social resources they command. And you can't talk about the present while ignoring prospects and the future. What follows is my own modest view; discussion welcome:

  • The buy-side arms of VCs and big banks (e.g., direct-investment desks, secondary prop desks) rarely if ever hire new grads, and rarely take internal transfers straight from the sell side. All else equal, the sell side offers plenty of openings — primary-market IBD and secondary-market ER hire new grads every year.
  • Most buy-side seats are far less liquid: no vacancy, no way out.
  • Most buy-side shops can't offer systematic in-house training — there's little time to teach you or bring you along. Banking and consulting, by contrast, are called the "Whampoa Military Academies." Every year they allocate enough resources to give new grads comprehensive, systematic training across the board; your hard skills come out solid, and you don't fall behind on professional knowledge or network either. At a genuinely big sell-side shop, they can build in you a rigorous work ethic and good work habits, and lay a very systematic foundation for your professional knowledge. When your resources and abilities are limited, this is the steadiest path.
  • Colleagues tend to tell you only the "what," not the "why."
  • The experience gap is too wide: your formidable colleagues have mostly already done one or two different careers, and many are the "elite among the elite," while you're fresh out of the gate. The "pointers" they give you are so leapfrogging that, if you're not careful, they blow right past your ceiling and you can't digest them.
  • Buy-side workload is no lighter than the sell side — don't kid yourself.
  • The sell side gives you a full grasp of regulation. Once you've marinated in investment-banking thinking in this industry long enough, it pays off handsomely.
  • What the buy side mostly gives you is the platform's endorsement. The moment you lose that platform, discovering you've "achieved nothing" is agony. The sell side, by contrast, lets you advance or retreat: advance by taking a run at a good buy-side seat, retreat by staying on the sell side and keeping at it. One more thing: there has never been a job that pays a lot, asks little, and sits close to home; the trust-fund kids work harder than you'd think. Don't pine for the easy life. Whatever tempers you — whatever keeps you busy and worn out — will, at some point in the future, repay you double in ways you can't imagine.

If you bring your own resources — if you're a VIP — then sure, go straight to the buy side. The people you meet, the projects, the vantage and platform, the resources you get plugged into are on a completely different level from the sell side. The buy side carries a natural sense of intellectual superiority. Secondary-market people understand far too little, far too slowly. The work is extraordinarily rich, and you get to meet the very best people. There's no better way to learn how the very best founders read an industry, set strategy, pace execution, and lead a team. And finally, your curiosity gets richly fed.

On the sell side — whether at a Big Four firm or a bank — the core is compliance: helping companies prepare all kinds of documents, fielding the assorted messy questions the listing review committee throws out, all so the company can clear its hearing. In that setup, if you have great acuity, judgment, vision, industry-research chops, and so on, you'll get almost no chance to use them when everything revolves around the IPO. What you're there to do is apply your composite knowledge of finance, accounting, and law to help the company prepare its materials, make the required fixes, and get through its hearing and list smoothly.

If you don't bring your own resources, or your resources are limited, starting at a big sell-side shop is the better bet. The buy side prizes resources even more than the sell side — you could say on the buy side, resources are king. A junior on the buy side who has resources will have plenty of channels to plug into. The buy side has many ways to play the game, and the resource channels it can reach are extremely varied. On the buy side, professional skill matters too, but not as heavily as on the sell side. On the sell side resources matter as well, but their reach is limited — the core of "resource coverage" really comes down to whether, in the end, they hand you the business.

A few tips:

  1. In finance, for your first three years don't compare pay. For your first three years don't compare pay. For your first three years don't compare pay. Said three times because it matters.

  2. Going deep in one industry matters enormously. Finance is a broad and narrow profession at once: broad, in that it demands very wide, expansive professional literacy; narrow, in that you ultimately have to focus — primary or secondary, capital-markets business or equity business, either way.

  3. Advice from a mentor: for someone with a solid base and decent ability, getting fluent at the mechanics of the job takes about three to six months. Use the fastest possible time to think clearly about the value you'll create over the next year, then spend 50% of your time working hard to make it real. Leave yourself the other 50% to think about everything else.

One last line to close: the thing you can do tirelessly, again and again, is exactly where your gift lies.

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